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In this video author (Jordan peterson) claimed he doesn't believe Self esteem. Honestly I can't understand what exactly he means with that (maybe because I am not English speaker).

This is the way I look at self esteem and please correct me if that's not right way to look at it, and if thats what JP says one shouldn't do:

This is what I call self esteem and how I look at it: I try to objectively evaluate myself or my capabilities, mistakes I did and didn't etc, and then based on that it depends whether I think well/highly of myself, or if I might like myself or not in the course of time. In some cases if I did very well say on learning my self esteem will remain high in that direction. e.g. completed higher education with good grades (BSc,MSc,etc).

Is JP saying this is not the way to look at it?

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  • $\begingroup$ Which part of what he says can't you understand? Why do you hope to understand any answer given here better than the original thing you are trying to understand? Clarify, figure out, which part you do not understand. If it is a language thing, look for the definitions of what you don't understand. Only then can we help you. $\endgroup$ – Steven Jeuris Nov 18 at 20:54
  • $\begingroup$ @StevenJeuris This is why I restated my question in more simple way such that answering my question now, would make understanding the JP video unnecessary anymore, but here you go, you come here, with your absolutely unhelpful comment! thanks! Btw if my question is clear why not just answer it, instead of your "smart" comment? $\endgroup$ – user24739 Nov 19 at 6:27
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    $\begingroup$ I'm simply giving you guidance on how to improve your question, since it is not clear. We expect prior research for questions on this site. The video is sufficient for that, but as you state, you do not formulate a question based on something you have learned /do not understand in that video. You simply bring forth your own interpretation and ask us to validate it. Such questions typically get placed on hold as 'not framed in psychology or neuroscience' here. Thus, instead I suggest you explain what it is about the video you do not understand so this question may remain open. $\endgroup$ – Steven Jeuris Nov 19 at 9:15
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    $\begingroup$ @StevenJeuris I cant see in video what exactly he doesn't like about the term self esteem, he just doesn't mention it, hence there is no point in me explaining any further what I don't understand about the video. That is why I asked what is the accepted norm of interpreting self esteem and how to approach it. But I already did some research and I might have answer what he means: snip.ly/5smyx#http://www.yorku.ca/mar/… $\endgroup$ – user24743 Nov 19 at 9:46
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I assume the title is designed to be a bit provocative. But I think he makes a few claims:

  1. Big Five personality (especially neuroticism and extraversion) explains self-esteem well.
  2. It's very difficult to change a person's fundamental level of neuroticism.
  3. Interventions that focus directly on increasing self-esteem in a way that are detached from reality may be counterproductive.
  4. Beyond not being depressed, higher-levels of self-esteem may not necessarily be good or functional, especially if they are not grounded in intersubjective reality or lead to narcissism.
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  • $\begingroup$ "Interventions that focus directly on increasing self-esteem in a way that are detached from reality may be counterproductive."-> I agree you shouldn't increase self esteem in a way detached from reality. But to objectively try to evaluate your worth, I think that is alright? a.k.a self esteem $\endgroup$ – user24805 Nov 27 at 15:39

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