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Peru's ex-president Garcia's suicide to avoid arrest reminded me of general officers and politicians who, although unethical and wicked, were foxy but rational. They ought've been punished, but they cunningly escaped punishment through suicide. They haven't been labelled of 'mentally ill', as their suicides are disapproved.

I'm assuming that some of the jumpers in the Sep 11 2001 attacks on the WTC weren't judged irrational for dying by suicide.

  1. Doesn't this subjectivity mean that rational suicide is pathologized?

    See List of suicides in Nazi Germany, Mass suicides in 1945 Nazi Germany. Generalfeldmarschalls Robert Ritter von Greim and Walter Model.

  2. Any similar lists for Japan? I know of this one that refers to a handful of Japanese WW2 top brass.

    I can think of only: Field Marshals Hajime Sugiyama, Hideki Tojo (who missed his heart when he shot himself, but was executed), General Shizuichi Tanaka, Admiral Chūichi Nagumo.

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  • $\begingroup$ @ChrisRogers I miswrote 1. I was referring to suicide of the Nazis, not the 9/11 jumpers. $\endgroup$ – Greek - Area 51 Proposal May 13 at 3:28
  • $\begingroup$ With Japanese, there is the history of the Kamikaze. There is also the practice of Seppuku/Harakiri $\endgroup$ – Chris Rogers May 13 at 5:23
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    $\begingroup$ Not certain I understand the question. What exactly do you mean by "Doesn't this subjectivity mean that rational suicide is pathologized?". Could you elaborate? $\endgroup$ – Steven Jeuris May 13 at 7:18
  • $\begingroup$ The key parts to clarify are a) why suicide is being argued as irrational, and b) how you're defining irrational. $\endgroup$ – Cameron Brick May 17 at 10:59

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