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I have read a lot about people who are good memorizing images (visual type memory), music, words, numbers, etc. but I have never read a lot about how all these things are "saved" in our brain.

I am not trying to understand the biological part, that is far away from my competences, I am talking more about a more general layer, like what we actually memorize?

I will start from an example: what do we "save" when we remember an image?

  • Do we memorize all the "pixels" as a computer would?
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  • $\begingroup$ I don't think the answer to this is known. $\endgroup$
    – Carey Gregory
    Sep 14 '18 at 14:29
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    $\begingroup$ Eh, although I agree the precise answer is not known, we do know quite a bit about visual memory (you definitely do not store pixels like a computer, for example). This question would be much better suited for Psych&Neuro.SE or Bio.SE; I'll flag it for migration to Psych&Neuro. $\endgroup$
    – Bryan Krause
    Sep 14 '18 at 15:35
  • $\begingroup$ ok! @BryanKrause $\endgroup$
    – aster94
    Sep 16 '18 at 17:55
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    $\begingroup$ @Narusan could you bring the original post back? you edited it so heavily that you completely changed the purpose of the discussion, i wasn't asking if we memorize pixels..... you also completely deleted the part about the algorithm... you also changed to mane of the topic, that wasn't definitely about visual memory.... $\endgroup$
    – aster94
    Sep 16 '18 at 17:57
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    $\begingroup$ @aster You can't post discussions here. It's a Q&A site, not a forum. All Narusan did was make your question an actual question that meets site policy instead of the speculative "discussion" it was originally. $\endgroup$ Sep 17 '18 at 1:00
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This depends on the type of memory you are talking about.

In general though, the idea of pixels and 'saving' an image like a computer is not very accurate. Our eyes don't have an even distribution of photoreceptors, only a very small portion of our view is in focus and there are big obstructions (a blind spot where the nerve endings leave the eyeball, obscured vision by the nose, etc.). What we perceive is not "pixels" being picked up by the eye but an image that is reconstructed by the brain. Our perception is our brain's interpretation rather than raw data coming in (that is why it is subject to illusions, like the checker shadow illusion).

We have a sensory memory store that helps us actually see a stable image and is also responsible for things like after images or seeing a swinging sparkler as a circle of light (again our perception is an integration and interpretation rather than the raw data of the sparkler moving). Some of that can even happen unconsciously.

When it comes to remembering an image we saw a while ago, there is evidence that we reconstruct it in a backwards way, starting wit the main gist first. It is more like placing the important objects there and then filling in the details with what we remember. Interestingly, every time we recall a memory the reconstruction influences our subsequent recall, which can result in completely false memories. Say, we remember seeing a red car on a rainy day. When we remember this image, we immediately remember the red car but may not have much recollection of the weather. The brain may remember the red very lusciously because it stood out to us rather than because it was bright and falsely interpret that as it being a bright and sunny day. With each recall, we may fill in the weather more towards the sunny side until we are fully convinced it was a sunny day.

On the whole, visual memory is not like pixels but more like object reconstruction. Hope this helps

References:

Wikipedia (n.d.) Checker Shadow Illusion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checker_shadow_illusion

Pang, D. K., & Elntib, S. (2021). Strongly masked content retained in memory made accessible through repetition. Scientific reports, 11(1), 1-10. https://doi.org/10.1038/s41598-021-89512-w

Linde-Domingo, J., Treder, M. S., Kerrén, C., & Wimber, M. (2019). Evidence that neural information flow is reversed between object perception and object reconstruction from memory. Nature communications, 10(1), 1-13. https://doi.org/10.1038/s41467-018-08080-2

Neuroscience News (2020). Brain’s ‘updating mechanisms’ may create false memories https://neurosciencenews.com/updating-mechanism-false-memory-16438/

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  • $\begingroup$ +1 for providing a fully cited answer, but I am not completely convinced by the article in Neuroscience News talking about a study using mice. Being from a psychology background and not neuroscience, I understand there are ethics involved with humans, but how do we know the same effects will in fact happen with humans? Plus, surely you cannot actually study visual memory with mice as you cannot communicate with them. I have asked a separate question about this. $\endgroup$ Jun 5 at 9:49

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